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Post by Swim » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:16 am

But they did sell out. They were never a serious political band until there was some desent from the Us punk scene they then changed there clothes and musical style to jump on the band wagon they have sold out.

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Post by LouderThanLarry » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:17 am

I just never liked Green Day to being with. It also does seem odd to me that they all the suddenly became political, of crouse then again, i never listend to any of their other music i am just basing this off their singles.

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Post by dirty franka » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:13 am

hate them, hate them, hate them.....
i've got all of their albums...... but i dont like them at all.....uh...
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Post by Djennik » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:43 pm

I liked them before they went so commercial...
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Post by Gitza » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:53 pm

Yeah..
They played much better before..
I like their lyrics , song... hm.. to-and-fro.... wise....
All in all , I don`t have nothing against them , so.. they OK for me.. 8)
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Post by Temporary Insanity » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:32 pm

meh they we're good before american idiot came out.
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Post by Gitza » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:16 am

Temporary Insanity wrote:meh they we're good before american idiot came out.
Of course..
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Post by ToeJamOnToast » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:54 am

Whenever a band becomes huge and successful, there are inevitable cries of 'sellouts' and 'they've become too commercialised'. The truth is that all that's happened is that Green Day have grown up. They're in their thirties now. I've been a fan of theirs since their LookOut record days and I've seen them grow in quite a few different ways. If they stayed the same and kept making the same sort of music they made ten years ago, people would be like "God when are they going to grow up?".

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As for them becoming about the politics. American Idiot was a response to the situation of 9/11 and how the Bush organisation handled the aftermath of said event, and the subsequent war on Iraq. It was hardly Green day becoming a political band the way that Rage Against The Machine are. 9/11 had a huge impact on the world and people responded and reacted to it in different ways. The American Idiot album is meant to be listened to as a whole and it tells a story. The individual songs can be listened to on their own but make more sense as a whole.

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Post by ToeJamOnToast » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:47 am

Swim wrote:But they did sell out. They were never a serious political band until there was some desent from the Us punk scene they then changed there clothes and musical style to jump on the band wagon they have sold out.
How exactly did they change their clothes and musical style? Yes, they've changed dramatically since their Kerplunk days but they hadn't changed that much musically since their last proper album 'Warning' (Shenanigans and International Superhits respectively just being B-Sides and Singles albums) There was no bandwagon. It takes a year to a decade plus (if you're Axl Rose) to create an album. So the 2004 release of American Idiot actually means from the beginning of writing the songs just after 9/11 happened to when the album was released took approx three years.

What dissent from the US punk scene do you mean by the way?

Some people like their band packaged in one nice easy way to label them. If you don't want politics, go to the Less Than Jake section.

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Post by Djennik » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:08 am

You know a lot about them :)
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Post by Temporary Insanity » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:38 am

rachel-k wrote:Too much airplay i say... i've grown to loath american idiot album... i mean i liked it first time i heard it but it got steadily worse as i heard the tracks american idiot jesus of suberbia and september ends one played over and over and over and over....
welll you get my drift
i guess that's one reason but also the record got old really really fast.
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Post by DaisyChainsaw » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:50 am

ToeJamOnToast wrote:Whenever a band becomes huge and successful, there are inevitable cries of 'sellouts' and 'they've become too commercialised'. The truth is that all that's happened is that Green Day have grown up. They're in their thirties now. I've been a fan of theirs since their LookOut record days and I've seen them grow in quite a few different ways. If they stayed the same and kept making the same sort of music they made ten years ago, people would be like "God when are they going to grow up?".

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time -- Abraham Lincoln

As for them becoming about the politics. American Idiot was a response to the situation of 9/11 and how the Bush organisation handled the aftermath of said event, and the subsequent war on Iraq. It was hardly Green day becoming a political band the way that Rage Against The Machine are. 9/11 had a huge impact on the world and people responded and reacted to it in different ways. The American Idiot album is meant to be listened to as a whole and it tells a story. The individual songs can be listened to on their own but make more sense as a whole.

But a band can "grow up" in an interesting & innotive way. ;)
Greenday did not. They just became poppier, and added psuedo-political
lyrics which just come across as embarassing to be honest.

When they manage to get the mainstream 'majority' singing such lines
as "I want to be the minority, down with the majority" - don't you think
this is rather fake & silly. If there aim was to enlighten these listeners to
such irony - they have failed. If this was their message, then it's been
lost. If instead, their messgase was actually just plainly that - supporting
minority groups, over majority groups - then hell ! Why did they go
mainstream?

For bands aren't stupid. They know they can have a certain amount of
power and influence over what audience they attract. If Greenday wanted
a less mainstream audience, they would keep a certain dress style.
Instead, they are jumping on a band wagon... picking up the whole
emo dress thing (dyed black hair, and slightly gothy pop punk look
with eyeliner) and milking the mainstream for their cash.

If there's any "growing up" involved, as you say, then its that they have
grown too old and jaded with any form of true ethic - and no longer
believing in it - have decided to make a bit of cash for themselves, so
they can one day retire. What most foward thinking adults might consider.

IMO - Greenday have most definately sold out.

Daisy xx
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Hate, hate your enemies
Save, save your friends
Find, find your place
Speak, speak the truth

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Post by DaisyChainsaw » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:59 am

Image

GREENDAY 2006

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THE HIVES

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PANIC AT THE DISCO

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TAKING BACK SUNDAY


Notice a pattern here? :roll:

Sure it's cool. But Greenday are definately playing along....
It's All Gravy In The Soup Train Baby!!!

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Post by guitarbabe » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:59 am

DaisyChainsaw wrote:But a band can "grow up" in an interesting & innotive way. ;)
Greenday did not. They just became poppier, and added psuedo-political
lyrics which just come across as embarassing to be honest.

When they manage to get the mainstream 'majority' singing such lines
as "I want to be the minority, down with the majority" - don't you think
this is rather fake & silly. If there aim was to enlighten these listeners to
such irony - they have failed. If this was their message, then it's been
lost. If instead, their messgase was actually just plainly that - supporting
minority groups, over majority groups - then hell ! Why did they go
mainstream?

For bands aren't stupid. They know they can have a certain amount of
power and influence over what audience they attract. If Greenday wanted
a less mainstream audience, they would keep a certain dress style.
Instead, they are jumping on a band wagon... picking up the whole
emo dress thing (dyed black hair, and slightly gothy pop punk look
with eyeliner) and milking the mainstream for their cash.

If there's any "growing up" involved, as you say, then its that they have
grown too old and jaded with any form of true ethic - and no longer
believing in it - have decided to make a bit of cash for themselves, so
they can one day retire. What most foward thinking adults might consider.

IMO - Greenday have most definately sold out.

Daisy xx
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Post by DaisyChainsaw » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:34 am

I suck?

No, I rule baby! 8)

S'been a long time since I've been here...
but I was rockin' it like mad before the forum crashed.
(has done this a few times)

Who is the admin now? is it still Adam/Lovebattery?


and how are you today?
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Hate, hate your enemies
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Find, find your place
Speak, speak the truth

Ville Vallo... that is all :P

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