Grunge Timeline

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:38 pm

the bands from your list

or we could just use it as a reference
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

Then you put your spell on him and Jerry shall be yours.

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:59 pm

pretty soon you'll be able to put my band on the list!
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:10 pm

no i meant adams list
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

Then you put your spell on him and Jerry shall be yours.

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:02 pm

huh?
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Mithaearon » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:31 am

Alex wrote:Is my english really that shitty? :P
Dude your English is better than mine!

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Post by 00's suck » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:13 pm

Que? :lol:
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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:45 pm

Revamping this any takers? 8)
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

Then you put your spell on him and Jerry shall be yours.

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Re: Grunge Timline

Post by PJ92SOLAT » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:12 pm

j-bug wrote:1984
The U-Men-S/T(EP)-Bombshelter-1984
1985
Green River-Come On Down-Homestead-1985
Screaming Trees-Other Worlds(EP)-K Records-1985,re-issue 1987
The U-Men-Stop Spinning(EP)-Homestead-1985
1986
Green River-"Together We'll Never"(non album single)-(unknown label)-1986
Skin Yard-S/T-C/Z-1986
The Melvins-Six Songs-Ipecac-1986(re-issued-Eight Songs 1991,10 Songs 1991,26 Songs 2003)
Screaming Trees-Clairvoyance-Velvetone Records-1st January 1986
Various-Deep Six-C/Z Records-March 1986
1987
Skin Yard-"Bleed"-C/Z-1987
Skin Yard-"Stranger"-Toxic Shock Records-1987
Mono MenA. Side "Solid Action",B.Side "Dig It A Hole"-Black Label-1987
Janes Addiction-S/T(live album)-Triple X-1987
Soundgarden-Screaming Life(EP)-Sub Pop-1987
The Melvins-Gluey Porch Treatments-Alchemy.(re-issues-Boner & Ipecac)-1987
Screaming Trees-Even If and Especialy When-SST Records-1987
Green River-Dry As A Bone(EP)-Sub Pop-July 1987
1988
Janes Addiction-"Jane Says"-Warner Bros-1988
Mono Men-A Side "Freezebomb",B Side "That's Wild About Jack"-Amphetamine Reptile-1988
Beat Happening/Screaming Trees-EP-K Records/Homestead-1988
L7-S/T-Epitaph-1988
Skin Yard-Hallowed Ground-Toxic Shock Records-1988,re-issued with 2 bonus tracks unknown date.
Soundgarden-Fopp(EP)-Sub Pop-1988
The U-Men-Step On A Bug-Black Label Records-1988
Screaming Trees-Invisable Lantern-SST-1st January 1988
Green River-Rehab Doll-Sub Pop-June 1988
Janes Addiction-Nothing's Shocking-Warner Bros.-23rd August 1988
Mudhoney-Superfuzz Bigmuff(EP)-Sub Pop-October 1988
Soundgarden-Ultramega OK-SST Records-31st October 1988
1989
Skin Yard-"Start At The Top"-Sub Pop-1989
Blood Circus-Primal Rock Therapy-Sub Pop-1989,expanded and re-issued 1992
Mother Love Bone-Shine(EP)-Stardog/Mecury-1989
Mudhoney-Boiled Beef & Rotting Teeth(EP)-Sub Pop-1989
Screaming Trees-Buzz Factory-SST-1989
The Melvins-Ozma-Boner-1989
TAD-God's Balls-Sub Pop-March 1989
Babes In Toyland-Spanking Machine-Twin/Tone Records-16th April 1989
Nirvana-Bleach-Sub Pop,Geffen outside US-15th June 1989
Soundgarden-Louder Then Love-A&M Records-5th September-1989
Mudhoney-S/T-Sub Pop-1st November 1989
Nirvana-Blew(EP)-Sub Pop-December 1989
1990
Babes In Toyland-To Mother(EP)-Southern Records-1990,Twin/Tone Records-3rd August 1991
Gruntruck-Inside Yours-eMpTy/Roadrunnner Records-1990,expanded and re-issued 1991
Mono Men-Stop Dragging Me Down-Estrus-1990
Screaming Trees-Change Has Come(EP)-Sub Pop-1990
Screaming Trees-Something About Today(EP)-Epic-1990
Skin Yard-Fist Sized Chunks-Cruz-1990
Soundgarden-Loudest Love(EP)-A&M Records-1990
TAD-Salt Lick/God's Balls-Sub Pop-April 1990
Mark Lanegan-The Winding Sheet-Sub Pop-1st May 1990
Soundgarden-Screaming life/Fopp-Sub Pop-11th May 1990
Alice In Chains-We Die Young(EP)-Columbia Records-July 1990
Mother Love Bone-Apple-Stardog/Mercury(re-issue-Lemon Recordings-July 1990,reissue 8th September 2003
Alice In Chains-Facelift-Columbia Records-21st August 1990
Janes Addiction-Ritual de lo Habitual-Warner Bros-21st August 1990
L7-Smell The Magic-Sub Pop-1st September 1990,expanded aqnd re-issued July 1991
Mudhoney-Superfuzz Bigmuff Plus Early Singles-Sub Pop-25th October 1990
1991
Screaming Trees-"Bed Of Roses"-Epic-1991
Skin Yard-"1,000 Smiling Knuckles"-Cruz-1991
Skin Yard-"Psychoriflepowerhypnotized"-Rave-1991
Hammerbox-Hammerbox-C/Z Records-1991
Love Battery-Between the Eyes-Sub Pop-1991
Love Battery-Out Of Focus(EP)-Sub Pop-1991
The Melvins-Bullhead-Boner-January 1991
Screaming Trees-Uncle Anethesia-Epic-29th January 1991
TAD-8-Way Santa-Sub Pop-1st April 1991
Temple Of The Dog-S/T-A&M-16th April 1991
The Melvins-Eggnog-Boner-mid 1991
Screaming Trees-Athology:SST Years 1985-1989-SST-16th July 1991
Mudhoney-Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge-Sub Pop-26th July 1991
Skin Yard-1000 Smiling Knuckles-Cruz-6th August 1991
Pearl Jam-Ten-Epic-27th August 1991,re-issue-24th March 2009
Hole-Pretty On The Inside-Caroline-17th September 1991
Nirvana-Nevermind-DGC-24th September 1991
Soundgarden-Badmotorfinger-A&M Records-8th October 1991
1992
Screaming Trees-"Nearly Lost You"-Epic-1992
7 Year Bitch-S/T(EP)-C/Z-1992
7 Year Bitch-Antidisestablishmentarianism(EP)-Rugger Bugger Records-1992
Love Battery-Day Glo-Sub Pop-1992
Mono Men-Wrecker-Estrus-1992
Mono Men-Back To Mono-1+2 Records-1992
Mono Men-Shut The Fuck Up-Estrus-1992
Screaming Trees-Winter Songs Tour Tracks(EP)-Epic-1992
Soundgarden-SOMMS(EP availble with limited edition Badmotorfinger)-A&M Records-1992
The Gits-Frenching the Bully-C/Z-1992-re-issued 17th June 2003 on Broken Rekids
The Melvins-Lysol-Boner-1992
My Sisters Machine-Diva-Caroline-24th January 1992
Nirvana-Hormoaning(EP)-DGC,Greffen-5th Febuary 1992
Alice In Chains-Sap(EP)-Columbia Records-21st March 1992
L7-Bricks Are Heavy-Slash Records-14th April 1992
Babes In Toyland-Fontanelle-Reprise-11th August 1992
Screaming Trees-Sweet Oblivion-Epic-8th September 1992
Blind Melon-S/T-Capitol-22nd September 1992
Mother Love Bone-S/T(also known as Stardog Champion)-Stardog/Mecury-22nd September 1992
Alice In Chains-Dirt-Columbia Records-29th September 1992
Stone Temple Pilots-Core-Atlantic Records-29th September 1992
Mudhoney-Piece Of Cake-Reprise-October 1992
7 Year Bitch-Sick 'Em-C/Z Records-1st October 1992
Gruntruck-Push-Roadrunner-6th October 1992
Nirvana-Incesticide-DGC-14th December 1992(europe),15th December 1992(US)
1993
Screaming Trees-"Shadow Of The Season"-Epic-1993
Screaming Trees-"Dollar Bill"-Epic-1993
Skin Yard-"Undertow"-Cruz-1993
Hammerbox-Numb-A&M-1993
Love Battery-Far Gone-Sub Pop-1993
Mono Men-Bent Pages-Estrus-1993
Skin Yard-Inside the Eye-Cruz-Summer 1993
TAD-Inhaler-Giant/Warner Bros-1993
Brad-Shame-Epic/Looseground-27th April 1993
Porno For Pyros-S/T-Warner Bros-27th April 1993
Babes in Toyland-Painkillers(EP)-Reprise-22nd June 1993
My Sisters Machine-Wallflower-Chameleon-10th August 1993
Nirvana-In Utero-DGC-13th September 1993
The Melvins-Houdini-Atlantic-21st September 1993
Pearl Jam-V's-Epic-19th October 1993
Mudhoney-Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew(EP)-Reprise-26th October 1993
1994
Love Battery-Nehru Jacket(EP)-Atlas-1994
Mono Men-Sin and Tonic-Estrus-1994
TAD-Live Alien Broadcasts-Futurist Records-1994
Mark Lanegan-Whiskey For The Holy Ghost-Sub Pop-18th January 1994
Alice In Chains-Jar Of Flies(EP)-Columbia Records-25th January 1994
Soundgarden-Superunknown-A&M Records-8th March 1994
The Gits-Enter:The Conquering Chicken-C/Z-24th March 1994,re-issue 14th October 2003 on Broken Rekids
Hole-Live Through This-DGC-12th April 1994
Stone Temple Pilots-Purple-Atlantic Records-7th June 1994
7 Year Bitch-¡Viva Zapata!-C/Z Records-28th June 1994
L7Hungry For Stink-Slash/Reprise-12th July 1994
The Melvins-Prick-Amphetamine Reptile-5th August 1994
The Melvins-Stoner Witch-Atlantic-October 1994
Nirvana-MTV Unplugged-DGC-1st November 1994
Pearl Jam-Vitalogy-Epic-22nd November 1994(vinyl),6th December 1994(CD,cassette)
1995
Love Battery-Straight Freak Ticket-Atlas Records-1995
Malfunkshun-Return To Olympus-Loose Ground-1995
Mono Men-Those Mono Men Recorded Live At Tom's Strip and Bowl-Estrus-1995
Mad Season-Above-Columbia Records-14th March 1995
Mudhoney-My Brother The Cow-Reprise-28th March 1995
TAD-Infrared Riding Hood-EastWest/Elektra Records-11th April 1995
Babes In Toyland-Nemesisters-Reprise-9th May 1995
Neil Young(feat. Pearl Jam-Mirrorball-Reprise-27th June 1995
Blind Melon-Soup-Capitol-2nd October 1995
Hole-Ask For It(EP)-Caroline-8th September 1995
Alice In Chains-S/T (also known as Tripod)-Columbia Records-7th November 1995
Soundgarden-Songs from The Superunknown-A&M Records-21st November 1995
Nirvana-Singles-Geffen-December 1995
1996
Screaming Trees-"All I Know"-Epic-1996
Screaming Trees-"Dying Days"-Epic-1996
Screaming Trees-"Sworn and Broken"(7",CD)-Epic-1996
Gruntruck-Shot,Illusion,New God(EP)-Betty Records-1996
Mono Men-Gypsy Woman Live-Impossible-1996
Mono Men-Ten Cool Ones-Scat-1996
7 Year Bitch-Gato Negro-Atlantic-12th March 1996
Stone Temple Pilots-Tiny Music... Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop-Atlantic Records-26th March 1996
Soundgarden-Down On The Upside-A&M Records-21st May 1996
Porno For Pyros-Good Gods Urge-Warner Bros-28th May 1996
The Gits-Kings And Queens-Broken Rekids-11th June 1996
Three Fish-S/T-Epic-11th June 2006
The Melvins-Stag-Atlantic-July 15th 1996
Screaming Trees-Dust-Epic-25th June 1996
Alice In Chains-MTV Unplugged-Columbia Records-30th July 1996
Pearl Jam-No Code-Epic-27th August 1996
Nirvana-From The Muddy Banks Of The Wishkah-DGC-1st October 1996
Blind Melon-Nico-Capitol-12th Novmber 1996
1997
Mono Men-Have A nice Day Motherfucker-Estrus-1997
L7-The Beauty Process:Triple Platinum-Slash/Reprise-25th Febuary 1997
The Malvins-Honky-Amphetamine Reptile-5th May 1997
Brad-Interiors-Epic-24th June 1997
Hole-The First Session(EP)-26th August 1997
The Melvins-Singles 1-12-Amphetamine Reptile-26th August 1997
Hole-My Body,The Hand Grenade-28th October 1997
Janes Addiction-Kettle Whistle-Warner Bros-4th November 1997
Soundgarden-A-sides-A&M-4th November 1997
1998
Pearl Jam-Yield-Epic-3rd Febuary 1998
Jerry Cantrell-Boggy Depot-Columbia-31st March 1998(vinyl),7th April 2008(CD)
Mark Lanegan-Scraps At Midnight-Beggers Banquet/Sub Pop-20th-21st July 1998
Hole-Celebrity Skin-Geffen-8th September 1998
Mudhoney-Tomorrow Hit Today-Reprise-22nd September 1998
Pearl Jam-Live On Two legs-Epic-24th November 1998
L7-Live:Omaha to Osaka-Mans Ruin Records-15th December 1998
1999
Love Batttery-Confussion Au Go Go-C/Z Records-1999
Scott Weiland-12 Bar Blues-Atlantic-31st March 1999
The Melvins-The Maggot(The Trilogy Part 1)-Ipecac-17th May 1999
Three Fish-The Quiet Table-Epic-1st June 1999
Alice In Chains-Nothing Safe:Best Of The Box-Columbia-29th June 1999
The Melvins-The Bootlicker(The Trilogy Part 2)-Ipecac-23rd August 1999
L7-Slap Happy-Wax Tadpole Records-24th August 1999
Mark Lanegan-I'll Take Care Of You-Beggers Banquet/Sub Pop-20th-21st September 1999
Alice In Chains-Music Bank-Columbia-26th October 1999
Stone Temple Pilots-No.4-Atlantic Records-26th October 1999
2000
Mudhoney-Here Comes The Sickness:The Best Of The BBC-Sub Pop-2000
The U-Men-Solid Action-Chukie-Boy-2000
Mudhoney-March To Fuzz-Sub Pop-January 2000
The Rockfords-S/T-Epic-1st Febuary 2000
The Melvins-The Crybaby(The Trilogy Part 3)-Ipecac-7th Febuary 2000
The Melvins-The Trilogy Vinyl-Ipecac-7th Febuary 2000
L7-The Slash Years-Slash Records-2nd May 2000
Pearl Jam-Binaural-Epic-16th May 2000
The Twilight Singers-Twilight As Played By The Twilight Singers-Columbia-12th September 2000
The Gits-Seafish Louisville-Broken Rekids-25th September 2000
Alice In Chains-Live-Columbia-5th December 2000
2001
Skin Yard-Start At The Top(limited edition hand numbered)-Cruz-2001
The Melvins-Electroretard-Mans Ruin-6th Febuary 2001
Mark Lanegan-Field Songs-Beggers Banquet-8th May 2001
Stone Temple Pilots-Shangri-La Dee Da-Atlantic Records-19th June 2001
Screaming Trees-Nearly lost You-Sony-1st July 2001
Alice In Chains-Greatset Hits-Columbia-24th July 2001
Stone Gossard-Bayleaf-Sony-11th September 2001
Chris Cornell-Euphoria Morning Interscope-21st September 2001
2002
Blind Melon-Classic Masters-Capitol-29th January 2002
The Melvins-Hostile Ambient Takeover-Ipecac-15th April 2002
Jerry Cantrell-Degradation Trip-Roadrunner-18th June 2002
Mudhoney-Since We've Become Translucent-Sub Pop-20th August 2002
Nirvana-S/T-DGC-29th October 2002
Pearl Jam-Riot Act-Epic-12th November 2002
Audioslave-S/T-Epic/Interscope-19th November 2002
Jerry Cantrell-Degradation Trip Volumes 1&2-Roadrunner-26th November 2002
2003
Janes Addiction-"Just Because"(CD,vinyl)-15th July 2003
Janes Addiction-Strays-Capitol-22nd July 2003
Brad-Welcome To Discovery Park-Redline-13th August 2003
The Twilight Singers-Black Is The Colour Of My True Loves Hair(EP)-One Little Indian-7th October 2003
The Twilight Singers-Blackberry Belle-One Little Indian-14th October 2003
Mark Lanegan-Here Comes The Weird Chill(EP)-Beggers Banquet-4th November 2003
Pearl Jam-Lost Dogs-Epic-11th November 2003
Stone Temple Pilots-Thank You-Atlantic Records-11th November 2003
The Rockfords-Live Seattle-WA 12/13/03-Kufala-28th December 2003
2004
The Rockfords-Waiting...Ten Club-January 2004
Courtney Love-America's Sweetheart-Virgin-10th Febuary 2004
Velvet Revolver-Contraband-RCA-8th June 2004
Pearl Jam-Live At Benaroyal Hall-BMG-27th July 2004
Mark Lanegan-Bubblegum-Beggers Banquet-2nd August 2004
The Melvins (with Lustmord)-Pigs Of the Roman Empire-Ipecac-23rd August 2004
The Twilight Singers-She Loves You-One Little Indian-24th August 2004
Pearl Jam-rearviewmirror-Epic-16th November 2004
Nirvana-With The Lights Out-DGC-23rd November 2004
2005
Hammerbox-Live EMP Skychurch, Seattle, WA-Kufala Records-2005
Audioslave-Out Of Exile-Epic/Interscope-23rd May 2005(europe),24th May 2005(US)
Screaming Trees-Ocean Of Confusion:Songs of The Screaming Trees-Epic-24th May 2005
The Melvins-Mangaled Deoms from 1983-Ipecac-31st May 2005
Brad v's Satchel-S/T-The Establishment Store-26th July 2005
The Twilight Singers-Greg Dulli's Amber Headlights-6th September 2005
The Melvins (with Jello Biafra)-Never Breath What You Cant See-Alternative Tentacles-26th September 2005
Blind Melon-The Best Of-Capitol-27th September 2005
Nirvana-Sliver:The Best Of The Box-DGC-1st November 2005
2006
Mark Lanegan and Isobel Campbell-Ballad Of The Broken Seas-V2-7th March 2006
Mudhoney-Under A Blillion Stars-Sub Pop-7th March 2006
Blind Melon-Live At The Palace-Capitol-4th April 2006
Pearl Jam-live In NYC 12/31/92-Ten Club,fan club only relese(?)-2nd May 2006
Pearl Jam-S/T(also known as Avacado)-J-2nd May 2006
The Twilight Singers-Powder Burns-One Little Indian-16th May 2006
Pearl Jam-Live At Easy Street-J-20th June 2006
Alice In Chains-The Essential-Columbia-5th September 2006
Audioslave-Revelations-Epic/interscope-5th September 2006
Janes Addiction-Up The Catacombes-The Best Of-Rhino-19th September 2006
The Melvins-(a) Senile Animal-Ipecac-10th October 2006
The Twilight Singers-A Stitch In Time(EP)-One Little Indian-4th December 2006(UK),23rd January 2007(US)
2007
Mudhoney-Live Mud-Sub Pop-2007
Chris Cornell-The Roads We Choose-A Retrospective-Interscope-March 2007
Pearl Jam-Live At The Gorge 05/06-Rhino/WEA-26th June 2007
Chris Cornell-Carry On-Suretone/Interscope-28th May 2007(europe),5th June 2007(US)
Velvet Revolver-Libertad-RCA-3rd July 2007
The Melvins-Smash The State(EP)(vinyl only)-Amphetamine Reptile-25th August 2007
Eddie Vedder-Into The Wild(soundtrack)-J-18th September 2007
Pearl Jam-Live At Lollapalooza 2007-Pearl Jam-18th September 2007
2008
Gutter Twins-Saturnalia-Sub Pop-4th March 2008
Blind Melon-For My Friends-unknown label-22nd April 2008
Mark Lanegan and Isobel Campbell-Sunday At Devil Dirt-V2-13th May 2008
Mudhoney-The Lucky Ones-Sub Pop-20th May 2008
The Melvins-Nude With Boots-Ipecac-16th June 2008(europe),8th July 2008(US)
Gutter Twins-Adorata(EP)(download only release)-Sub Pop-2nd September 2008
Jeff Ament-Tone-Monkey Wrench-16th September 2008
Scott Weiland-"Happy" In Galoshes-Softdrive-25th November 2008
Stone Temple Pilots-Buy This-Rhino Records-27th November 2008
2009
Chris Cornell-Scream-Mosely,Intersope,Universal-9th March 2009
Courtney Love-Nobody's Daughter-Custard Records, W14 Music/Universal Records-9th March 2009
Janes Addiction-A Cabinet Of Curiosities-Rhino-6th April 2009
Well, this is not a timeline of grunge, this is grunge album's timeline.
Dearly beloved are you listening?
I can't remember a word that you were saying
Are we demented or am I disturbed?
The space that's in between insane and insecure
Oh, therapy, can you please fill the void?
Am I retarded or am I just overjoyed

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by j-bug » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:15 pm

actualy it is the timeline of grunge releases.it is a useful resource for all here.it's also impossible to make a true grunge timeline using anything else.do you have any idea how long that took to research/type out?think you can do any better then go ahead punk.
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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:16 pm

i was actually about to say how useful this is. You probably cant find it anywhere else :D
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

Then you put your spell on him and Jerry shall be yours.

FOREVER!

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Beeswax » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:49 am

@PJ92SOLAT: Eh... no offense, dude, but was it really necessery to quote that :wink: ? Or am I nagging now? :lol:
And yes, I've never seen a better list than this one, I like to have new stuff to listen to! :)
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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by iasc » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:14 am

This is a great list
Very helpful
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If people would leave me alone
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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by Pennyroyaltea » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:11 pm

Beeswax wrote:@PJ92SOLAT: Eh... no offense, dude, but was it really necessery to quote that :wink: ? Or am I nagging now? :lol:
Lol no your not nagging
shanze wrote:And you will. You will.

Then you put your spell on him and Jerry shall be yours.

FOREVER!

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by JohnnyCobain » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:35 pm

What about nirvanas live at reading? November 3rd 2009 I think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsOi4lpeGT4 (Forming A Grunge Band)

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Re: Grunge Timeline

Post by rape.me » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:44 pm

wow that awesome dude so how long did it took you to gether all those information
thats tooo important

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