Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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I believe this was thrash metal mostly because that's what bands like Metallica set out to do, but what do you guys think
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See, there's metal and then there's all the weird words they put behind the word 'metal'. But as a matter of fact, 'tis all the same shit. Labeled shit. What we call "grunge" wasn't labeled by those who created the music but by the industry who liked to sell flannels and Kurt Cobain action figures. And I'm glad they did because otherwise we would have no way of referencing so many different bands with a single word; But anyway grunge killed nothing. Foo Fighters is living proof of that.
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In 2004 I read a Cobain/grunge retrospective in Q Magazine where they said grunge killed off hair metal for a bit and that spandex would vanish until the rise of The Darkness. Guess that hits the nail on its head. I mean even new metal is coming back, so whatever shitty music enjoyed by legions of morons there ever was, it will always find a way to come back and please a new generation of morons.
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SKUNCHBAG wrote:But anyway grunge killed nothing. Foo Fighters is living proof of that.
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Re: Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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No. Hair Metal had a long run (1983-91), but kids wanted a new sound and Grunge became the new Rock trend.

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It most likely made glam go through natural selection.

The ones that survived were adaptable to change.
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Hair Metal killed Hair Metal....Grunge killed Mr. Cobain.

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It didn't kill it, just drove it more underground than it had been. Just like grunge is still around but a lot less popular than it used to be. Pretty much all genres of music are still out there, you only have to look a bit harder to find it.
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thanks for the imput guys. I know that hair metal is making a comeback which is weird, but then again Pantera, a band I love dearly once was glam.
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Alice In Chains was pretty glammed out too before they were signed. Mother Love Bone too. :)
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You know, there's not as many things wrong with the 80s as most people claim. Sure, the whole image was pretty damn gaypub like with those tight leathers, ridiculous haircuts and all, but the music itself wasn't all that bad. Y'know, catchy riffs, over the top solos and live shows. Still, the bands were about insane debauchery and criminal giving of no fucks (something that's just not applicable in today's applestore ethics society) and that attitude left the angsty & depressed out of the party, which I guess is one of the main things that caused the 90s to happen, getting truly down-to-earth because you're sick of rockstar bullshit.

Sure, they were good instrumentalists and wrote catchy songs, but there wasn't much of a heart behind the music, they were just doing 'the thing' by ear and hoping it came out good. And grungers probably did the same but they also had things to say, no matter if they were kinda shitty topics, they didn't give a fuck. Right now too much people are just looking up to the rockstar figure without realizing that was what caused shit to end up like this in the first place. Of course, all those folks who are long dead were good, but there's no need to ascend them into godhood and worshipping them like idiots. Jimi Hendrix could make his guitar cry because he didn't hold back the pain he had felt. It wasn't about potential but consistency. Later on people simply mimicked the moves but avoided the pain, they didn't do it the hard way and that's why they sound cheesy, because they had no fucking idea what was he saying they just copied and pasted the words like Dave Grohl does everytime he tries to talk about the "human factor" in music, something he always does before going on to write songs that use the same structure over and over again as if he was a goddamn factory automaton.

It's not about dressing cool, giving speeches or writing deep things, 'tis just knowing that you're not being true just because you use tape recorders or talk lots of shit about heart and soul in the arts or balance of technical and emotional forces or whatever honeyed bullshit you could possibly come up with. 'Tis just about playing stupid things to amuse yourself because you know music will make you die a happy man regardless of what happens throughout your life. And for god's sake, to never fake emotions because you're holding the real ones back.
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Re: Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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boxcar wrote:It didn't kill it, just drove it more underground than it had been. Just like grunge is still around but a lot less popular than it used to be. Pretty much all genres of music are still out there, you only have to look a bit harder to find it.
You don't have to look hard to find stuff at all....which is kinda sad because it makes things less appreciated then they once were and people are more critical then they use to be. Around here when people were younger they were up for checking out anything and everything to give it a try and then they narrowed down their tastes so much that they didn't bother with local stuff anymore. They found what they wanted online and they stayed at home satisfying their need for Asian Swine Flu GrindCore from Texas or whatever it was that they got into and you would only see them at the odd party where all they did was bitch about the local efforts they use to appreciate and drink...the later of which was the only thing they had in common with anyone. Peoples taste has become insanely specific in order to feel they have something unique but it can still easily be found...just not easily experienced in "real life" I suppose.

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Re: Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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Elektra Foxx wrote:No. Hair Metal had a long run (1983-91), but kids wanted a new sound and Grunge became the new Rock trend.
I'd say you're right. Most genres don't last more than ten years unless, that is, unless it's something phenomenal like jazz or blues. Grunge replaced hair metal and the grungers bragged about it with their giant egos they pretend not to have.
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Schneider wrote:Grunge replaced hair metal and the grungers bragged about it with their giant egos they pretend not to have.
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Re: Did Grunge Kill Hair/Glam metal?

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SKUNCHBAG wrote:
Schneider wrote:Grunge replaced hair metal and the grungers bragged about it with their giant egos they pretend not to have.
the anti-rockstar revolution maan
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:lol:
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