Different Types of Grunge

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Different Types of Grunge

Post by KristinNirvana » Mon May 21, 2018 2:25 pm

I don't remember if we have had an actual topic on this, but I always found it funny how people complain about how grunge bands have nothing in common, despite the fact that the same goes for metal and punk but people decided to split each of those up into the million different types of metal and punk which we could easily do for grunge as well. So help me finish this list, or feel free to give your opinion on where a band should be instead.

Different types of grunge:

*Grunge (I don't know where else to fit these so maybe they're just standard?)
-Pearl Jam
-Green River
-Mad Season

*Metal Grunge:
-Alice in Chains
-My Sister's Machine
-Skin Yard
-Bundle of Hiss
-64 Spiders

*Punk Grunge:
-7 Year Bitch
-Gas Huffer (also Punkabilly Grunge)
-Coffin Break (also Metal Grunge)

*Psychedelic Grunge:
-Screaming Trees
-Love Battery
-Nero's Rome

*70s Rock Grunge:
-Mother Love Bone

*Garage Rock Grunge:
-Mono Men
-Blood Circus
-Cat Butt (also Punkabilly Grunge)

*Blues Grunge:
-Temple of the Dog
-Dead Moon

*Folk Grunge:
-The Walkabouts

*Pop Grunge:
-My Name
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Re: Different Types of Grunge

Post by BleedTheFreak » Mon May 21, 2018 8:08 pm

For me, my POV is more simple, and a heck of a lot less traditional than others; grunge basically splits into "three" categories: grunge, post-grunge, and alternative rock:

Traditional "grunge" in it's essential essence boils down to a melodic PNW predecessor to NOLA sludge; dirty, fuzzy guitars, memorable chuggy riffs, an emphasis on heavy, groovy bass, and a combination of clean harmonized singing with rough vocals (growls and shrieks) -- a combination of early Black Sabbath and the last three songs of Black Flag's 'My War' with added influence from noise and no wave acts of the time (Scrach Acid, Swans, Sonic Youth)-- some examples of this would include the following songs by these noticable bands:

Nirvana: Negative Creep, Anorexorcist, Paper Cuts, Curmudgeon, Scoff, Pen Cap Chew, Blew, Token Eastern Song, Dive, and Oh, The Guilt
Soundgarden: Birth Ritual, 4th of July, Room A Thousand Years Wide, Gun, Outshined, Black Rain, Slaves and Bulldozers, and Beyond The Wheel
Alice In Chains: Grind, Junkhead, Sludge Factory, Again, Dam That River, Died, A Looking In View, Stone, and Them Bones
Melvins: Revolve, It's Shoved, Set Me Straight, The Bit, Cow, Hog Leg, and Leeech (originally a Green River demo)
Tad: Throat Locust, Bullhorn, Grease Box, Jinx, Luminol, Emotional Cockroach, Stumblin' Man, Pansy, and Jack.
I also generally consider various parts of U-Men, Skin Yard, Willard, Bundle of Hiss, Gruntruck discographies, Jerry Cantrell's 'Degradation Trip' and Hole's 'Pretty on The Inside' to fit into this category as well (and a handful of early Mudhoney songs; though they're largely garage punk imo).


I use the post-grunge term pretty truthfully to it's mainstream definition, these are bands that rode off the hype and the success of "grunge" and alternative rock in the mainstream and provided a more radio-accessible, friendlier version to audiences, by replacing walls of distortion and fuzz with acoustic guitars and high-end production values, typically fronted by Vedder/Cobain imitators and often crossing with nu metal. I generally break this into three 'waves'.

First Wave: Bush, Silverchair, Foo Fighters, Candlebox, Days of the New, Alanis Morrissette, Matchbox Twenty, and Collective Soul
Second Wave: Nickelback, Creed, Seether, Puddle of Mudd, Staind, 3 Doors Down, Theory of a Deadman, and Daughtry
Third Wave: Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, Skillet, Papa Roach, Alter-Bridge, Halestorm, Flyleaf, Hinder, Crossfade, and Art of Dying


Then, there's alternative rock, probably the most loosely defined term, refers to the plain ol' 90's rock bands that seldom fit into one category on their own, usually derived from 80's college rock (Pixies, R.E.M, The Smiths, U2, Daydream-era Sonic Youth, etc) and includes acts such as Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Blind Melon, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Jane's Addiction, Stone Temple Pilots, Dinosaur Jr, and The Cranberries.

Mother Love Bone, Temple of the Dog and Mad Season also fit in this category, along with these songs by the aformentioned artists:
Nirvana: Smells Like Teen Spirit, Lithium, Heart Shaped Box, About A Girl, In Bloom, Polly, Dumb, All Apologies, and Pennyroyal Tea
Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun, Fell On Black Days, Rusty Cage, Burden In My Head, Spoonman, Live To Rise, and Pretty Noose
Alice In Chains: Rooster, Man In The Box, Would?, Nutshell, Down In A Hole, Voices, No Excuses, Bleed The Freak, and Heaven Beside You

Also, not included is second wave "post-hardcore" (generally referred to as 90's "alternative metal") which includes bands such as Helmet, Quicksand, Rollins Band, Unsane, Jesus Lizard, Handsome, Paw, Tar, Hammerhead, Tool's 'Undertow' and a few other bands often mislabeled as grunge.
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Re: Different Types of Grunge

Post by Jack_Armstrong » Mon May 21, 2018 11:30 pm

I think of Nirvana more as punk grunge, personally, whilst Pearl Jam sound like they fit into the ‘70s rock category. Green River are somewhere in between punk grunge and metal grunge. In fact, I’d give bands like Melvins, TAD and Green River their own category, something like ‘hardcore punk grunge’, being somewhere between punk and metal?

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Re: Different Types of Grunge

Post by Jack_Armstrong » Wed May 23, 2018 1:18 pm

And with regard to Flop, I’d say they fall into punk grunge more than anything. Some of their songs are quite heavy. Listen to Pluto.

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Re: Different Types of Grunge

Post by incessantmace » Fri May 25, 2018 10:39 am

Since it was so long ago, of course no one but Papa Jan will remember the poll about the different sides of grunge. This of course was before the Great Genre Definition War so...
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