man in the box, and aic being a metal band

[joseph]

you know that drum bit, that was really fucking heavy

and also the fact that they choose it as their lead single was an indicator of who they were trying to appeal 2.

i think they were trying to appeal to metalheads with man in the box's heaviness, as opposed to their alt rock counterparts who were a tiny bit less heavy [e.g soundgarden[if u consider them punk or metal]pj and, nirvana etc.]

i think man in the box was aimed directly 100% @ metalheads/hard rockers and not alt/punk/indie fans

then with nevermind and the grunge explosion they just tried to cash in with sap & dirt and SUDDENLY become ''alt rock'', if grunge never happened i bet they would have been grouped with somewhat heavier bands such as tool and maybe janes addiction/rhcp/the funk metal scene of the early/mid 90s, hell maybe theyd even be grouped with the beastie boys or snoop dog!

if you have an opinion that might somewhat differ to mine [or differ at all to mine infact], then plz respond to this thread and i will debate you on the matter. thanks

btw i am a TINY bit biased towards metal, but i still love grunge

[j-bug]

AiC are just AiC.

[joseph]

AiC are just AiC.

Concession accepted

btw i am a pretty fanatical aic fanboi [more bias] just saying :weird:

[j-bug]

i travelled 10,000 miles for two days just to see AiC,4 months after seeing them 3 nights in a row around the UK.i doubt you are that fanatical.

[joseph]

i travelled 10,000 miles for two days just to see AiC,4 months after seeing them 3 nights in a row around the UK.i doubt you are that fanatical.

meh, im more ''caffeine induced fanatical'' about aic

[P A I V]

AiC was never NOT trying to be a metal band, they just got lumped into Grunge because Nirvana came out.

Like, AiC came out before Grunge was popular with Man in the Box, and even though they are totally unlike any band I've ever listened to - without all of the context of the Grunge scene, they'd have had some success as a metal band and not as a part of a movement or scene.

I mean - they toured with Anthrax and Slayer and shit...they've always considered themselves metal fans and more like a metal band than any of the other Grunge guys with the exception of like, Skin Yard and the Melvins.

[joseph]

AiC was never NOT trying to be a metal band, they just got lumped into Grunge because Nirvana came out.

Like, AiC came out before Grunge was popular with Man in the Box, and even though they are totally unlike any band I've ever listened to - without all of the context of the Grunge scene, they'd have had some success as a metal band and not as a part of a movement or scene.

I mean - they toured with Anthrax and Slayer and shit...they've always considered themselves metal fans and more like a metal band than any of the other Grunge guys with the exception of like, Skin Yard and the Melvins.

hmm, great post

i just got beat a few posts in

but still MAYBE just maybe if grunge never occurred they would be a leader in the ''alt metal'' scene [koRn and nu metal included]

aic remind me of nu metal, just saying [they are many genres tbh], so do tool and all those other ''early 90s alt metal bands'' and if you go on wikipedia youl see korn stated MANY MANY bands as their ''prime'' influences. korns first two albums have grunge elements IMHO coz when you cluster a bunch of genres together, basically what you get is grunge. [post early 90s of coarse]

alt metal/nu metal is a term for mid/late 90s grunge rejects IMHO

[Mr Insanity]

I would say alt metal if I had to but I dont think you can label a band like AiC, they are what they are, and we love them for it

[Luciditypro]

Hey yo, joe. Yo dawg you gots alot of HO'S dawg.

[PJAICfan]

Joe, i wouldnt consider aic nu metal in the slightest, in fact, they along with tool and soundgarden id very much consider alt metal, nu metal doesnt quite have the sludgy sabbath esque sound that aic has

[Stargazer]

If you consider AiC nu metal i'll hunt you down and skin you

I'd never consider AiC as Alt rock. "Them Bones" and "Dam that River" is an awesomely heavy badass intro to an album.

AiC have never had boundaries or limits, so it's no good trying to label them as a single genre.

[incessantmace]

I chose the coffee option 8D

[joseph]

i'm not saying aic ever went nu metal [theyl never sink that low EVER] but just listen to facelift and youl see its basically an alt metal album, and if they had continued down that route, they prob would of ended up like godsmack god help us.

im sure bands like korn and slipknot were influenced by facelift. [both bands used to be funk]

[cupid_come_as_u_r]

I chose the coffee option 8D

This.
Also, Jenna. I love how RIGHT after every ignored post, there you are.
And I got banned for chasing Joe around the forum.

[Scarabola]

If they're a metal band, what metal are they?